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    Posted: 06 November 2008 at 4:47pm
OK, so we have two superscoops and are just on the brink of building a g-sub (we got two 186 drivers and a couple of sheets of ply!) to run with them. We had hoped that this would give us that extra punch for dancehall style sounds, but have had some comments that this may not work well Confused

I've seen and heard systems running double 18 reflex cabs allongside (or ontop of) scoops many times and it sounded awesome.. but maybe they weren't g-subs.. Shocked

Jah Tubbys is a good example (see pic) but i heard a ragga/dancehall sound at St Pauls carnival a few years back that blew me away with this combo.



Any comments from people?






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oh, and i remember seeing Russ and Lol's Boomshakalacka sound a number of times back in the day and they had three or for double 18s at least running with their scoops.. sounded great Big smile

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high pressure used to do it for a while... i'll let phil know there's a thread on it incase he's got any comments
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Wouldn't PD186 work well in USB or ES-18BPH? If it is the mid/kickbass you are after.
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Originally posted by supasniper supasniper wrote:

high pressure used to do it for a while... i'll let phil know there's a thread on it incase he's got any comments

Fe sure, please do.. all comments at this crucial stage essential!
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Originally posted by pfly pfly wrote:

Wouldn't PD186 work well in USB or ES-18BPH? If it is the mid/kickbass you are after.

Maybe, think there might be some phase problems as we are using a JTS 3-way preamp as our crossover and you don't have control over the crossover points or any timing/delay control.

I was guessing that reflex cabs would work better than horns and be less prone to phasing issues when used with scoops.


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Scoops have phase issues on their own.

G-subs wouldn't be ideal on top but you wouldn't need to have delays in the rig, unlike the bandpass horns.


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Do you know what the crossover points on the preamp are?
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Originally posted by Dub Defector Dub Defector wrote:

I've seen and heard systems running double 18 reflex cabs allongside (or ontop of) scoops many times and it sounded awesome..
 
Same here! That combo sounds superb!
 
 
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Originally posted by billso billso wrote:

Do you know what the crossover points on the preamp are?

Tubbys trade secret but i 'd guess similar to Mostec:

bass - 30 - 130hz
mid - 130hz - 4.5khz
top - 4.5 - up

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Originally posted by Tekasis Tekasis wrote:

 
Same here! That combo sounds superb!
 
 

Thanks tek, good reading. Still not conclusive mind. Any idea what frequencies Nick (Operation)  was running them at? Same as the scoops or low mid? If its low mid it would seem to be a waste of a good sub.. they are 'subs' after all. In the plans section Rog says for reggae and dancehall run them from as low as they go, all the way to 180hz (which covers that low mid mostly anyway).. so i guess as long as there are no major phasing issues i cant really see why it should be a problem running them with scoops.. 

Any other thoughts?


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What other speakers do you own? mids/tops etc
Do you own an active crossover?
and do you already have the preamp?
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